Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:41:51

Author: Matt Lowry

Subject: Re: Beliefs and "Common Sense"

Post:

This is a faulty argument. It makes about as much sense to say that NASA scientists & engineers "believe" in gravity because they get government grants for their work... just my $0.02 worth.

Btw, of those 30,000 scientists who disagree with GW, how many of them do actual climate research? Answer: not many. Only about 3% of climate scientists actually question the reality of human-induced GW - here's a link to back that up - http://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus.htm (you can click the "intermediate" link for a more detailed analysis)

Cheers,

Matt Lowry
Lake Forest HS
College of Lake County
Illinois


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From: tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu [mailto:tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu] On Behalf Of hubisz
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:59 AM
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Cc: Matthew Bobrowsky
Subject: Re: Beliefs and "Common Sense" (was Re: [tap-l] [Phys-l] amazing instruments)

Beside the fact that consensus does not determine science, there is no
consensus. There are, however, over 30,000 scientists (NOT from the
"soft" sciences) who disagree, along with the Royal Society and the
Russians. It seems that those who have government grants to look into
the question "believe" it.

John Hubisz

On 3/11/2011 10:44 AM, Matthew Bobrowsky wrote:
> Anthony,
>
> I'm not sure why you included global warming in your list. Unlike the other
> "beliefs" you mentioned, there is actually strong scientific evidence -- and
> consensus among scientists -- that global warming is occurring. We can now
> state that as a fact. So that's in a very different category from the other
> items on your list.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 3/10/11 12:47 PM, "Anthony Lapinski" wrote:
>
>> So it seems you are saying that I (and many others) have no common sense.
>> Interesting. I wonder how you feel about these groups and how much "common
>> sense" they have:
>>
>> people who believe in God
>> people who believe in an afterlife
>> people who believe in global warming
>> people long ago who believed that the Earth was motionless
>> people long ago who believed that the Earth was at the center of the
>> universe
>>
>> etc...



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