Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 22:05:56 +

Author: Simcha Segev

Subject: Re: The value of demonstrations (was ''Interference


Dave, just to add to what Gabe wrote, I think that some of your activities
is drinking beer in NY pub's....while demonstrate Physics nonsense...and
laying on bed of nails in new York sidewalks.

Greetings to all, Simcha

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On
Behalf Of Gabe Alba
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [tap-l] The value of demonstrations (was ''Interference

You most certainly don't put your feet up and sleep all day. You're
at the gym or running on the track all day.


Gabe Alba
Physics Lab Manager
Rutgers University
Serin 202W
732-445-5500 x0068

On May 6, 2010, at 12:03 PM, David Maiullo wrote:

> That's right, we never do any demos here at RU.....must've been my
> imagination. I just put my feet up and sleep all day. Now if I
> could just purchase that new comfy chair and pillow....
> ;-)
> Dave/RU
> Andrew Yue wrote:
>> Urs - I was showing off the MIT demo web pages to someone just
>> yesterday.
>> For what it is worth - last year we had a Chinese lecturer teaching
>> here who earned a doctorate from Rutgers and claimed that they did
>> not do demos.
>> So, I ask Dave when I saw him whether he had heard of this person.
>> He had not.
>> My take was that this individual did little to acquaint themselves
>> with the demo offerings at Rutgers.
>>> Apparently one professor from the theoretical department who
>>> transferred to us from MIT a few years back stated that the MIT
>>> has long ago stopped to use demonstration experiments as parts of
>>> their curriculum in physics to enhance the field with a more
>>> theoretical approach right from the beginning.
>>> Urs
>> A minor rant with regards to the value of demonstrations - a new
>> generation of faculty are coming up the ranks and truthfully it is
>> our job to show them the value of live demonstrations - which can
>> be a tough sell to some computer-oriented theorists.
>> A second not so minor rant - I do not know about Europe, but here
>> in the US budgets are tight. A full-fledged physics demo office
>> occupies valuable real estate and our salaries are not $8.50 an hour.
>> There are competing interests that will gladly re-purpose both our
>> lab space and our salaries for pet projects - one of which is the
>> discovery/inquiry-base learning fans, who are very political and
>> have gained some considerable influence in my department.