Date: Tue Oct 6 22:31:42 2009

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P.S. the University of Utah has long held the record for the greatest number of student athletes graduated with their class/year group.
?????? Zig







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Taplers, I have to echo the the words of Dan I can think of only one basketball player who was less than honest and courteous.

??? Most of my dealing have been great, one of the Basketball players who is playing in the NBA and taking his summers

studying to become a dentist like his Dad. Zig















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I have had a few athletes in our first year physics classes. Usually cross-country, baseball or swimming though I have had the occasional basketball and football player. I have never had an athlete that was anything but courteous to their instructors and serious about their studies. Some of them have turned out to be outstanding scholars as well as great athletes. Knowing the challenges of trying to complete coursework when also competing in their respective seasons I bend over backwards to help them but insist they still must do the same work as anyone else in the course. Most are just looking for a fair shake.



Dan Beeker



> From: smsamper@syr.edu

> To: tap-l@lists.ncsu.edu

> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:52:45 -0400

> Subject: Re: [tap-l] UM Intercollegiate Athletics update

>

> Jerry Jerry Jerry,

>

> There was a time when the football players on campus were required to be polite, required to not only attend class, but also pass. Ok, sure, some of the stars back then took basketweaving, but I don't that that was the rule for the entire team.

>

> Now these guys are rude and obnoxious. And I'm guessing that a good percentage just made it out of high school, can't do 9th math or read 8th grade level material, but they're in college to play football and NOT for an education. Maybe they're here for an edumacation.

>

> Please don't take offense, there are acceptions to the rule. And I think the rules changed long ago...

>

> The root of the problem though is the system and NOT the kids. They are simply products of the system. The system sucks...

>

> Sam

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu [mailto:tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu] On Behalf Of Jerry DiMarco

> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:52 PM

> To: tap-l@lists.ncsu.edu

> Subject: Re: [tap-l] UM Intercollegiate Athletics update

>

> Thanks Sam, appreciate the compliment. All you outspoken individuals

> must not have played football, but what's the likelihood no one else on

> this list has either? You are entitled to your opinion of course, but it

> should be respectful of different ways of life or values...

>

> Jerry

>

>

> At 10/1/2009 12:43 PM, you wrote:

> >Don't get me going. I used to love college football. Now that it's a

> >business, I can't stand it! And let's not talk about the mental abilities

> >of the average football player. Even worst, the above average football player!

> >

> >Sam

>

>

>





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P.S. the University of Utah has long held the record for the greatest
number of student athletes graduated with their class/year group.
Zig







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Taplers, I have to echo the the words of Dan I can think of only one
basketball player who was less than honest and courteous.
Most of my dealing have been great, one of the Basketball players
who is playing in the NBA and taking his summers
studying to become a dentist like his Dad. Zig


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Bernoulli >
To: tap-l@lists.ncsu.edu
Sent: Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:43 pm
Subject: Re: [tap-l] UM Intercollegiate Athletics update

I have had a few athletes in our first year physics classes. Usually
cross-country, baseball or swimming though I have had the occasional
basketball and football player. I have never had an athlete that was
anything but courteous to their instructors and serious about their
studies. Some of them have turned out to be outstanding scholars as well
as great athletes. Knowing the challenges of trying to complete
coursework when also competing in their respective seasons I bend over
backwards to help them but insist they still must do the same work as
anyone else in the course. Most are just looking for a fair shake.

Dan Beeker

> From: smsamper@syr.edu
> To: tap-l@lists.ncsu.edu
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:52:45 -0400
> Subject: Re: [tap-l] UM Intercollegiate Athletics update
>
> Jerry Jerry Jerry,
>
> There was a time when the football players on campus were required to
be polite, required to not only attend class, but also pass. Ok, sure,
some of the stars back then took basketweaving, but I don't that that
was the rule for the entire team.
>
> Now these guys are rude and obnoxious. And I'm guessing that a good
percentage just made it out of high school, can't do 9th math or read
8th grade level material, but they're in college to play football and
NOT for an education. Maybe they're here for an edumacation.
>
> Please don't take offense, there are acceptions to the rule. And I
think the rules changed long ago...
>
> The root of the problem though is the system and NOT the kids. They
are simply products of the system. The system sucks...
>
> Sam
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu
[mailto:tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu ]
On Behalf Of Jerry DiMarco
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:52 PM
> To: tap-l@lists.ncsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [tap-l] UM Intercollegiate Athletics update
>
> Thanks Sam, appreciate the compliment. All you outspoken individuals
> must not have played football, but what's the likelihood no one else on
> this list has either? You are entitled to your opinion of course, but it
> should be respectful of different ways of life or values...
>
> Jerry
>
>
> At 10/1/2009 12:43 PM, you wrote:
> >Don't get me going. I used to love college football. Now that it's a
> >business, I can't stand it! And let's not talk about the mental
abilities
> >of the average football player. Even worst, the above average
football player!
> >
> >Sam
>
>
>

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