Date: Wed Aug 5 19:57:22 2009

Author: chuck britton

Subject: Re: Campus Police permission for certain demos

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ooooooo - this is DEFINITELY the way to play it.

Not only will they like to be invited - but they'll probably serve as
a bit of insulation between you and any other do-gooder on campus who
doesn't appreciate minor disturbances.



On Aug 5, 2009, at Aug 5(Wed) 7:45 , Paul Nord wrote:

> If campus security officers at your place are anything like ours,
> and I'm sure that they are, they're the sort of good ol' boys that
> would really like to come and watch these demos.
>
> Paul
>
> On Aug 5, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Richard Flarend wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering if anyone out there has to get permission from their
>> Campus Police before doing 'loud or explosive' demonstrations. My
>> division head just announced this for us saying "inform all
>> chemistry/physics faculty that they need to obtain permission from
>> the campus police before performing loud, or otherwise explosive
>> demonstrations".
>> This happened as a result of someone igniting a hydrogen or
>> acetylene balloon outside which seems like a pretty standard
>> demo. Of course this also begs the question about what is loud
>> and what defines explosive.
>>
>> A side problem with this is that I don't see how the campus police
>> could possible give permission for this in the first place. I
>> would think that some such demonstrations are easily within the
>> grey area of being deemed 'explosive devices' by homeland security
>> and the like. Has anyone ever fully looked into this?
>>
>> Richard F.
>>
>


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ooooooo - this is DEFINITELY the way to play = it.

Not only will they like to be invited - but = they'll probably serve
as a bit of insulation between you and any other = do-gooder on
campus who doesn't appreciate minor = disturbances.



On Aug 5, = 2009, at Aug 5(Wed) 7:45 , Paul Nord wrote:

If campus = security officers at your place are anything like
ours, and I'm sure = that they are, they're the sort of good ol'
boys that would really like = to come and watch these = demos.

Paul

On Aug 5, 2009, = at 4:50 PM, Richard Flarend wrote:

I'm wondering if anyone out = there has to get permission
from their Campus Police before doing 'loud = or explosive'
demonstrations. My division head just announced this = for
us saying "inform all chemistry/physics = faculty that they
need to obtain permission from the campus police = before
performing loud, or otherwise explosive = demonstrations".
This happened as a result of someone igniting = a hydrogen
or acetylene balloon outside which seems like a pretty =
standard demo. Of course this also begs the question about
what is = loud and what defines explosive.

A side problem with this is that I don't see = how the
campus police could possible give permission for this in the
= first place. I would think that some such demonstrations
are = easily within the grey area of being deemed 'explosive
devices' by = homeland security and the like. Has anyone
ever fully looked into = this?

Richard = F.



=

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