Date: Wed Dec 3 15:29:04 2008

Author: Dale E. Stille

Subject: Re: Energy Conservation?

Post:

Matt and all,

I'm thinking this device may help lower your bill depending on how the
meter at your house measures "power". If your power company has changed
your meter in the last couple of years like mine did I'm thinking it
ain't going to do much for you. 5 years or older meter......probably
help some. All in all, just a device that can fool some of the older
lower tech meters.

Later,
Dale

Matt Lowry wrote:
> Okay, I'm really beginning to think this is a bogus thing now. Not
> "free-energy", but it is starting to smell bad. The more I look, the
> more get-green-quick websites I keep finding regarding this PS1200
> unit. Here's another one - http://hotwattsolar.com/Power-Save-1200.php
>
> And I keep seeing the same (or almost identical) text over and over again...
>
> /"*The Power-Save 1200™* is a small gray box that fits neatly next to
> your breaker panel, saves you money year after year and protects the
> entire home. The Power-Save 1200™ was designed with the homeowner in
> mind, *providing lower energy bills, increased motor and appliance
> life*, for all of the equipment inside of your house."/
> //
> I smell a scam, folks.
>
> Cheers ,
>
> Matt Lowry
> Lake Forest HS
> College of Lake County
> Illinois
>
>
> >>> "Matt Lowry" 12/3/2008 1:31 PM >>>
> Dick et al,
>
> Upon further analysis, it seems that power-factor boosting is the trick
> behind this device. I did a Google search for the "Power Save 1200"
> unit advertised at www.FreeEasyGreen.com
> and found another company which sells exactly the same device. This
> other company is called "Power Save"
> (http://www.power-save.com/1200.html), and the description is identical...
>
> /"*The Power-Save 1200™*// is a small gray box that fits neatly next to
> your breaker panel, saves you money year after year and protects the
> entire home. The Power-Save 1200™ was designed with the homeowner in
> mind, *providing lower energy bills, increased motor and appliance
> life*, for all of the equipment inside of your house."/
>
> Now, I did find an FAQ at the Power Save website which gave a
> description of what the Power Save 1200 is supposed to do, and it does
> seem to be this inductance-capacitance trick with the power factor...
> http://www.power-save.com/faqs.html
>
> /"//*How Does the Power-Save Unit Work?*
> The Power-Save reduces the amount of power drawn from the utility by
> storing (in its capacitors) otherwise lost electricity (watts) caused by
> the inductive motors in your home. (Some examples of inductive motors
> are Air Conditioning units, refrigerators, freezers, washers, dryers,
> dishwashers, pool pumps, vacuum cleaners, furnace blower motors, fans
> etc.) The technology applied by the Power-Save 1200™ Unit supplies that
> stored electricity back to your inductive loads, thus causing you to
> decrease your demand from the utility. If you decrease your demand from
> the utility, your meter slows down, and you use less electricity. The
> thought is, you’ve already paid for that electricity, why pay for it and
> waste it when you can pay for it, store it, and reuse it again. This
> whole process is called power factor optimization./*
> /What is Power Factor? /*
> /Power factor is the percentage of electricity that’s delivered to your
> house and used effectively, compared to what is wasted. For example, a
> 1.0 power factor means that all the electricity that’s being delivered
> to your home is being used effectively for its purpose. However, most
> homes in America today have a .77 power factor or less. This means that
> 77% of the electricity that is coming thru your meter at your home or
> business is being used effectively, the other 23% is being wasted by
> your inductive load. With a low power factor, the utility has to deliver
> more electricity to do the same work. However, the Power-Save unit
> increases that power factor in most cases to .97 or .98, thus increasing
> the effective use of your electricity and lowering your usage."/
> //
> Now, seeing this new info, I will revise my earlier suspicion that this
> was a "free-energy" device. However, I have to wonder about the
> validity of the claims that the power factor can be boosted from 0.77 to
> 0.97 or higher. If this were the real thing, wouldn't it already be all
> over the place, especially in light of how energy costs soared over the
> last few years? It still seems very suspect to me - almost like a
> "close-to-free-energy-but-not-quite" device.
>
> I agree with Bernard's original criticism. Whoever put together that
> original website doesn't seem to be using the correct terminology, and
> that's a warning sign right there.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt Lowry
> Lake Forest HS
> College of Lake County
> Illinois
>
>
> >>> Richard Berg 12/3/2008 12:23 PM >>>
> Wasn't this advertised many years ago as a way to save electricity?
>
> It seems to me that the trick was to dork around with the phase
> relationship between the voltage and current so as to trick the meter into
> measuring less power.
>
> Can you do that?
>
> Dick
>
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Bill Norwood wrote:
>
> > Hi Taplers,
> >
> >
> >
> > Hoax, right?
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. That device is not large enough to store a significant amount of
> > electrical energy in its capacitors.
> >
> > 2. There is no way to cycle back into the system "unused" electricity,
> > right?
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.freeeasygreen.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Norwood
> >
> > U of MD at College Park
> >
> >
>
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