Date: Wed Apr 4 17:05:14 2007

Author: Patricia Sievert

Subject: Re: Java versus Windows

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Urs,
My experience with the viento site with XP and IE7 was similar. Black
screen with a white line rectangle that when hovered over, instructed
me to "click here to activate and use the control". When I left
clicked, the screen went black and there was nothing. It works fine
with Mozzilla.
Pati

Gerald Zani wrote:

> Thanks, Tappers. I can't imagine this job without tap-l!
>
> I used Steve Wonnell's recommended procedure to change the group
> policy and I also enabled the Active-x controls to run. It worked.
>
> Urs,
> Your web site does not work on my win-doze device. I get a blank,
> black web page. When I left click it says "click to activate
> control", and then nothing happens. When I right click it gives me
> info about adobe flash player 9, which I already have installed.
>
> -- JZ
>
> At 02:41 PM 4/4/2007, you wrote:
>
>> Jerry,
>>
>> As you mentioned my expression for Win-dose, here my 0.000000001
>> worth of a comment:
>>
>> It's because of yet another copyright issue of MS, the company that
>> happily pilfers the ingredients of their monumental bloatware OS. It
>> is a change made by Microsoft as a workaround for a patent lawsuit by
>> Eolas. You can make your website work with this by using a script
>> such as:
>>
>> http://www.ediy.co.nz/internet-explorer-flash-applet-activation-fix-xidc19237.html
>>
>> But this has to be made by the maker of the animated (Flash, Java
>> etc.) website. However you should be able to make it work by just
>> clicking onto the Active X Control to manually start the animation.
>> This is annoying but MS want's it to be this way and the rest has to
>> adapt.
>>
>> I once made a web page for friends of mine who run a fashion designer
>> studio by the name of Viento. Their homepage is http://www.viento.ch
>> . The page ran just fine for years but
>> recently people increasingly reported problems with IE not being
>> able to automatically launch the page. So if you have time around
>> happy Eastern you may want to check with your favorite browser and
>> may it be IE-XYZ to report back if you encounter problems with the
>> page. It's a 99 Flash page with media type content.
>>
>> I know it's off topic and pretty unrelated to physics but as I want
>> to fix the issue over the upcoming Eastern days, I would be very
>> curious to know about what type of problems you have with page.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Urs
>>
>> Urs Lauterburg
>> Physics demonstrator
>> Physikalisches Institut
>> University of Bern
>> Switzerland
>>
>>
>>> Tappers,
>>>
>>> Has anyone noticed unexpected problematic issues that arise when
>>> using java applets on a windows os machine?
>>>
>>> I have Dell laptops running Windows XP. If I try to run a java
>>> applet after doing a windows update I get an error message that says
>>> something like "active x disabled", and "click here to temporarily
>>> run active x controls". This causes me pains and to overcome this I
>>> have to disable windows updates.
>>>
>>> Anyone experiencing similar conflicts between Java and Windows?
>>>
>>> Can a Win-doze expert(as Urs likes to put it)fill us in with some
>>> helpful details in this issue?
>>>
>>>
>>> The ground is soft and it is time for planting peas.
>>> The maple sap has flowed and the grape buds have formed and the
>>> trout are biting. The fishing season has opened.
>>> -- JZ
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald Zani e-mail: Gerald_Zani@brown.edu
>>> Manager of Demonstrations phone: (401) 863-3964
>>> Department of Physics FAX: (401) 863-2024
>>> Brown University Providence, RI 02912-1843 USA
>>>
>>> http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics/demopages/demo/
>>> http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics/userpages/staff/Gerald_Zani/index.html
>>>
>>> Do a little more of that work which you have confessed to be good,
>>> Which you feel that society and your most Just Judge rightly demand
>>> of you.
>>> Cultivate the tree which you have found to bear fruit in your soil.
>>> If you have any experiments you would like to try, try them.
>>> Now's your chance.
>>>
>>> Henry David Thoreau, Journal entry, 1850.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Gerald Zani e-mail: Gerald_Zani@brown.edu
> Manager of Demonstrations phone: (401) 863-3964
> Department of Physics FAX: (401) 863-2024
> Brown University Providence, RI 02912-1843 USA
>
> http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics/demopages/demo/
> http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics/userpages/staff/Gerald_Zani/index.html
>
> Do a little more of that work which you have confessed to be good,
> Which you feel that society and your most Just Judge rightly demand of
> you.
> Cultivate the tree which you have found to bear fruit in your soil.
> If you have any experiments you would like to try, try them.
> Now's your chance.
>
> Henry David Thoreau, Journal entry, 1850.
>

--
Patricia Sievert, Outreach Coordinator
Department of Physics
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, IL 60115

sievert@physics.niu.edu
www.physics.niu.edu/frontier
(815) 753-6418

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Urs,
My experience with the viento site with XP and IE7 was similar. Black
screen with a white line rectangle that when hovered over, instructed
me to "click here to activate and use the control". When I left
clicked, the screen went black and there was nothing. It works fine
with Mozzilla.
Pati

Gerald Zani wrote:
Thanks, Tappers. I can't imagine this job
without
tap-l!

I used Steve Wonnell's recommended procedure to change the group policy
and I also enabled the Active-x controls to run. It
worked.

Urs,
Your web site does not work on my win-doze device. I get a
blank, black web page. When I left click it says "click to
activate control", and then nothing happens. When I right
click it gives me info about adobe flash player 9, which I already have
installed.

-- JZ

At 02:41 PM 4/4/2007, you wrote:

Jerry,

As you mentioned my expression for Win-dose, here my 0.000000001 worth
of a comment:

It's because of yet another copyright issue of MS, the company that
happily pilfers the ingredients of their monumental bloatware OS. It is
a
change made by Microsoft as a workaround for a patent lawsuit by Eolas.
You can make your website work with this by using a script such
as:

http://www.ediy.co.nz/internet-explorer-flash-applet-activation-fix-xidc19237.html

But this has to be made by the maker of the animated (Flash, Java etc.)
website. However you should be able to make it work by just clicking
onto
the Active X Control to manually start the animation. This is annoying
but MS want's it to be this way and the rest has to adapt.

I once made a web page for friends of mine who run a fashion designer
studio by the name of Viento. Their homepage is
http://www.viento.ch
. The page ran just fine for years but recently people increasingly
reported problems with IE not being able to automatically launch the
page. So if you have time around happy Eastern you may want to check
with your favorite browser and may it be IE-XYZ to report back if you
encounter problems with the page. It's a 99 Flash page with media type
content.

I know it's off topic and pretty unrelated to physics but as I want to
fix the issue over the upcoming Eastern days, I would be very curious
to know about what type of problems you have with page.

Thank you

Urs

Urs Lauterburg
Physics demonstrator
Physikalisches Institut
University of Bern
Switzerland



Tappers,

Has anyone noticed unexpected problematic issues that arise when using
java applets on a windows os machine?

I have Dell laptops running Windows XP. If I try to run a java applet
after doing a windows update I get an error message that says something
like "active x disabled", and "click here to temporarily run active x
controls". This causes me pains and to overcome this I have to disable
windows updates.

Anyone experiencing similar conflicts between Java and Windows?

Can a Win-doze expert(as Urs likes to put it)fill us in with some
helpful details in this issue?


The ground is soft and it is time for planting peas.
The maple sap has flowed and the grape buds have formed and the trout
are biting. The fishing season has opened.
-- JZ


Gerald Zani e-mail:
Gerald_Zani@brown.edu
Manager of Demonstrations phone: (401) 863-3964
Department of Physics FAX:
(401) 863-2024
Brown University Providence,
RI 02912-1843 USA

http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics/demopages/demo/
http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics/userpages/staff/Gerald_Zani/index.html

Do a little more of that work which you have confessed to be good,
Which you feel that society and your most Just Judge rightly demand of
you.
Cultivate the tree which you have found to bear fruit in your soil.
If you have any experiments you would like to try, try them.
Now's your chance.

Henry David Thoreau, Journal entry, 1850.




Gerald Zani e-mail:
Gerald_Zani@brown.edu
Manager of Demonstrations phone: (401)
863-3964
Department of Physics FAX:
(401) 863-2024
Brown University Providence,
RI 02912-1843 USA

http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics/demopages/demo/
http://www.physics.brown.edu/physics/userpages/staff/Gerald_Zani/index.html

Do a little more of that work which you have confessed to be
good,
Which you feel that society and your most Just Judge rightly
demand of you.
Cultivate the tree which you have found to bear fruit in your
soil.
If you have any experiments you would like to try, try them.
Now's your chance.

Henry David Thoreau, Journal entry, 1850.



--


Patricia Sievert, Outreach Coordinator
Department of Physics
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, IL 60115

sievert@physics.niu.edu
www.physics.niu.edu/frontier
(815) 753-6418





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