Date: Wed Feb 28 18:46:53 2007 Back to Contents

Author: John Hubisz

Subject: Re: LabGuy Rot Suggestions

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Foreign languages recognize the difference between "sex" and "gender".

"Sex" is either male or female. "Gender" in English can be masculine,
feminine, or neuter. In Dutch there is common or neuter. Some
languages have only masculine or feminine. There are languages that
have as many as 20 genders. "Gender" is a grammatical term.

English does not use articles in the same way as other languages, so
there is little concern about agreement. You do not say or write, "el
seorita" or "la hombre," e.g.in Spanish. You might guess that "ship"
would be neuter, but there is no neuter in Spanish. It is "la barca"
(small boat) or "el nave" (ship) whereas in English we treat a ship as
feminine, the U.S. as neuter, and Germany as masculine.


John Hubisz



Sam Sampere wrote:
> How are all foreign languages dealing with this gender neutral stuff, where everything is very gender specific??
>
> Les techniciens de laboratoire, ils sont fou!
>
> Sam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu [mailto:tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu] On Behalf Of John Hubisz
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:58 PM
> To: tap-l@lists.ncsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [tap-l] LabGuy Rot Suggestions
>
> "Deity" is masculine and not "gender neutral."
>
> John Hubisz
>
> ࡱ
>
>
>
> Anna Kiefte wrote:
>
>> How about the gender neutral "deity"?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu [mailto:tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu] On
>> Behalf Of Dale Stille
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:00 PM
>> To: tap-l@lists.ncsu.edu
>> Subject: Re: [tap-l] LabGuy Rot Suggestions
>>
>>
>> Chele,
>>
>> I see nothing wrong with "Gods and Goddesses".
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, cablem wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I didn't mean to squash it...I think it's a riot! I just don't want
>>>
>>>
>> me,
>>
>>
>>> Annie, Patty, Kelly and some others to be called 'guys'. However, I
>>>
>>>
>> have to
>>
>>
>>> admit, I'm at a loss as to what we SHOULD say. We eliminated "tech".
>>>
>>>
>> What
>>
>>
>>> else works? Hmmm...what about guru?
>>>
>>> Chele
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/27/2007 4:12 PM, Tony Papirio wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> How come everybody got so quiet all of a sudden?
>>>>
>>>> cablem wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well...not to be politically correct or something ('cause I'm just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> as apt
>>
>>
>>>>> to say "PIRA guys" as the next person)...but...last time I checked
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> not all
>>
>>
>>>>> of us had dangly boy parts. I know "tech" isn't quite the term we
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> like,
>>
>>
>>>>> but at least its not gender-biased. Just sayin'...
>>>>>
>>>>> Chele
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/27/2007 1:21 PM, Gerald Zani wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I LOVE your list...
>>>>>> BUT,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You should change:
>>>>>> G. Shared an Old Peculiar with Zig during his glory days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, your list is named wrong. It should be renamed to be:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lab Guy Matures to Sweet Perfection!! -- JZ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 11:49 AM 2/27/2007, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A: Knows the location of everything in the Demo Room-- or at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> least
>>
>>
>>>>>>> where it /was/ before someone borrowed it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B: Has every published edition of Halliday and Resnick.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> C: Personally knew Sutton.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> D: Knows the meaning of the the acronym "PIRA".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> E: Can set up any demonstration in any lecture hall on campus in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> 10
>>
>>
>>>>>>> minutes flat. And is frequently asked to do so at the last
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> minute...
>>
>>
>>>>>>> E: Has at least 195 of the "PIRA 200" demonstrations in their
>>>>>>> department collection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> F: Can explain even the most basic demonstrations to the most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> advanced
>>
>>
>>>>>>> professors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> G. Can recall the last dozen bars visited with Ziggy during AAPT
>>>>>>> meetings. 10? 6? 1??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Machele Kindle
>>> Lab Manager
>>> Physics Dept.
>>> Wake Forest University
>>> Winston-Salem, NC 27109
>>>
>>> Phone: 336-758-5532
>>> Fax: 336-758-6142
>>>
>>>
>>> "Get Fuzzy"
>>>
>>> Bucky, the arrogant cat: Aaaaaaaa!
>>>
>>> Rob, the geeky owner: 11:55. Right on time for his nightly freakout.
>>>
>>> Satchet, the lovable dog: Ever notice how he runs circles in the same
>>> direction?
>>>
>>> Buckey: Yaaaaaaaa!
>>>
>>> Rob: Maybe the coriolis effect works on cats, too, eh?
>>>
>>> Satchet: Ha, ha! I have NO idea what that means!
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Foreign languages recognize the difference between "sex" and "gender".

"Sex" is either male or female. "Gender" in English can be masculine,
feminine, or neuter. In Dutch there is common or neuter. Some
languages have only masculine or feminine. There are languages that
have as many as 20 genders. "Gender" is a grammatical term.

English does not use articles in the same way as other languages, so
there is little concern about agreement. You do not say or write, "el
seorita" or "la hombre," e.g.in Spanish. You might guess that "ship"
would be neuter, but there is no neuter in Spanish. It is "la barca"
(small boat) or "el nave" (ship) whereas in English we treat a ship as
feminine, the U.S. as neuter, and Germany as masculine.


John Hubisz



Sam Sampere wrote:

How are all foreign languages dealing with this gender neutral stuff, where everything is very gender specific??

Les techniciens de laboratoire, ils sont fou!

Sam

-----Original Message-----
From: tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu [mailto:tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu] On Behalf Of John Hubisz
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:58 PM
To: tap-l@lists.ncsu.edu
Subject: Re: [tap-l] LabGuy Rot Suggestions

"Deity" is masculine and not "gender neutral."

John Hubisz

ࡱ



Anna Kiefte wrote:


How about the gender neutral "deity"?


-----Original Message-----
From: tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu [mailto:tap-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu] On
Behalf Of Dale Stille
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:00 PM
To: tap-l@lists.ncsu.edu
Subject: Re: [tap-l] LabGuy Rot Suggestions


Chele,

I see nothing wrong with "Gods and Goddesses".

Dale

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, cablem wrote:




I didn't mean to squash it...I think it's a riot! I just don't want



me,



Annie, Patty, Kelly and some others to be called 'guys'. However, I



have to



admit, I'm at a loss as to what we SHOULD say. We eliminated "tech".



What



else works? Hmmm...what about guru?

Chele


On 2/27/2007 4:12 PM, Tony Papirio wrote:



How come everybody got so quiet all of a sudden?

cablem wrote:




Well...not to be politically correct or something ('cause I'm just





as apt





to say "PIRA guys" as the next person)...but...last time I checked





not all





of us had dangly boy parts. I know "tech" isn't quite the term we





like,





but at least its not gender-biased. Just sayin'...

Chele

On 2/27/2007 1:21 PM, Gerald Zani wrote:




Bill,

I LOVE your list...
BUT,

You should change:
G. Shared an Old Peculiar with Zig during his glory days.

Also, your list is named wrong. It should be renamed to be:

Lab Guy Matures to Sweet Perfection!! -- JZ

At 11:49 AM 2/27/2007, you wrote:




A: Knows the location of everything in the Demo Room-- or at







least







where it /was/ before someone borrowed it.

B: Has every published edition of Halliday and Resnick.

C: Personally knew Sutton.

D: Knows the meaning of the the acronym "PIRA".

E: Can set up any demonstration in any lecture hall on campus in







10







minutes flat. And is frequently asked to do so at the last







minute...







E: Has at least 195 of the "PIRA 200" demonstrations in their
department collection.

F: Can explain even the most basic demonstrations to the most







advanced







professors.

G. Can recall the last dozen bars visited with Ziggy during AAPT
meetings. 10? 6? 1??

Cheers.

bill













--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Machele Kindle
Lab Manager
Physics Dept.
Wake Forest University
Winston-Salem, NC 27109

Phone: 336-758-5532
Fax: 336-758-6142


"Get Fuzzy"

Bucky, the arrogant cat: Aaaaaaaa!

Rob, the geeky owner: 11:55. Right on time for his nightly freakout.

Satchet, the lovable dog: Ever notice how he runs circles in the same
direction?

Buckey: Yaaaaaaaa!

Rob: Maybe the coriolis effect works on cats, too, eh?

Satchet: Ha, ha! I have NO idea what that means!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~















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