Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:54:39 -0600

Author: "David Kardelis"

Subject: RE: force plate or rotary motion sensor

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I have a bunch of the rotary motion sensors. What kinds of labs do you
have the students do? I have not come up with anything I am very happy
with.

BTW the IBM/Thinkstation rotary motion setups,in my opinion, are nicer
than the Pasco/Vernier one. They can be used on Vernier's ULI and
LabPro's with the use of an adaptor. The last time I looked 2+ years
ago, the Thinkstation probe had twice the resolution of the
Pasco/Vernier probe for just a little more in cost. =20

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Chairman; Dept of Chemistry and Physics

College of Eastern Utah

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435-613-5258

435-613-5125 (lab phone)

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[mailto:owner-tap-l@listproc.appstate.edu] On Behalf Of Duane Warn
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Subject: Re: force plate or rotary motion sensor

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Good Morning Zeke,

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We just receive our rotary motion sensors yesterday. I played with one
for a while, but I couldn't get the software to recognize it. The
output was garbage. Do you have any suggestions before I call Vernier?

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Thanks,

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Duane

Boise State U.



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--- Aaron Titus wrote:

> ok, I have enough funds to buy either the Vernier
> force plate or the=20
> rotary motion sensor. I have reasons for wanting
> both of them, but can=20
> only afford one of them.
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Get the rotary motion sensor. The data from it is
phenomenal. I can usually find rotational inertia
values within a few percent of the accepted values. It
is an excellent physical pendulum as well. Be sure to
buy (probably from Pasco) the attachments.

The force plate on the other hand is incredibly
flakey. I have now used two at two different schools.
In both cases, it has been hard to use. For example,
if you set it up like a bathroom scale, zero it, step
on it, get a reading then step off it, zero it, and
step back on, you will not get the same reading within
5 N. This drives students crazy.=20

Just my two cents.=20

Marc "Zeke" Kossover
The Jewish Community High School of the Bay


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on Vernier’s
ULI and LabPro’s with the use of an adaptor.  The last time I =
looked
2+ years ago, the Thinkstation probe had twice the resolution of the =
Pasco/Vernier
probe for just a little more in cost. 



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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>We just receive our rotary motion sensors =
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--- Aaron Titus <titus@mailaps.org> wrote:



> ok, I have enough funds to buy either the Vernier

> force plate or the

> rotary motion sensor. I have reasons for wanting

> both of them, but can

> only afford one of them.

>





Get the rotary motion sensor. The data from it is

phenomenal. I can usually find rotational inertia

values within a few percent of the accepted values. It

is an excellent physical pendulum as well. Be sure to

buy (probably from Pasco) the attachments.



The force plate on the other hand is incredibly

flakey. I have now used two at two different schools.

In both cases, it has been hard to use. For example,

if you set it up like a bathroom scale, zero it, step

on it, get a reading then step off it, zero it, and

step back on, you will not get the same reading within

5 N. This drives students crazy.



Just my two cents.



Marc "Zeke" Kossover

The Jewish Community High School of the Bay





       

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