Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 09:40:10 -0500

Author: "Cliff Bettis"

Subject: Re: The Ideal Scientific Equipment Company Catalog

Post:

Long enough to see of the coriolis force causes it to rotate.

Paul

On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 09:02 AM, David Willey wrote:

> long enough to see if it accelerates?
>
> Cliff Bettis wrote:
>
>> Special bonus discount for those who can answer the following
>> question:
>>
>> How long would one have to wait to determine whether the
>> frictionless, rigid
>> plane was level by watching the motion of a particle on it?
>>
>
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If it's perfectly flat, level and frictionless, it will oscillate (usually).

Cliff
----- Original Message -----
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> long enough to see if it accelerates?
>
> Cliff Bettis wrote:
>
> >Special bonus discount for those who can answer the following question:
> >
> >How long would one have to wait to determine whether the frictionless,
rigid
> >plane was level by watching the motion of a particle on it?
> >
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Is the particle perfectly hard?

Sam

Cliff Bettis wrote:

>If it's perfectly flat, level and frictionless, it will oscillate (usually).
>
>Cliff
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Willey"
>To:
>Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:02 AM
>Subject: Re: The Ideal Scientific Equipment Company Catalog
>
>
>
>
>>long enough to see if it accelerates?
>>
>>Cliff Bettis wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Special bonus discount for those who can answer the following question:
>>>
>>>How long would one have to wait to determine whether the frictionless,
>>>
>>>
>rigid
>
>
>>>plane was level by watching the motion of a particle on it?
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Is the particle perfectly hard?



Sam



Cliff Bettis wrote:

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If it's perfectly flat, level and frictionless, it will oscillate (usually).

Cliff
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long enough to see if it accelerates?

Cliff Bettis wrote:



Special bonus discount for those who can answer the following question:

How long would one have to wait to determine whether the frictionless,



rigid



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From peacock@physics.utah.edu Tue Sep 30 08:44:47 2003
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Where are the Maxwell Demons. Zig

Matt Lowry wrote:

> Hilarious! I have to send this to my colleagues!
>
> Whahoo! - Matt Lowry
>
> >>> ebert@citrus.ucr.edu 9/29/2003 11:35:17 AM >>>
> http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/ideal/ideal.htm
>
> Ron Ebert
> UCR Physics Department
> ron.ebert@ucr.edu
> http://phyld.ucr.edu

--
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Sam,

I don't think the particle matters as long as it's small and the surface =
is frictionless and flat.

Cliff
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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: The Ideal Scientific Equipment Company Catalog


Is the particle perfectly hard?

Sam

Cliff Bettis wrote:

If it's perfectly flat, level and frictionless, it will oscillate =
(usually).

Cliff
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "David Willey"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: The Ideal Scientific Equipment Company Catalog


long enough to see if it accelerates?

Cliff Bettis wrote:

Special bonus discount for those who can answer the following =
question:

How long would one have to wait to determine whether the frictionless,
rigid
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Is the particle perfectly hard?

Sam

Cliff =
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Cliff
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Cliff Bettis wrote:


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Paul,

But the Coriolis force would not allow you to figure out if the surface was
level as it would be there even if it were tilted.

Cliff
----- Original Message -----
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Cc: "Paul Nord"
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:39 AM
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> Long enough to see of the coriolis force causes it to rotate.
>
> Paul
>
> On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 09:02 AM, David Willey wrote:
>
> > long enough to see if it accelerates?
> >
> > Cliff Bettis wrote:
> >
> >> Special bonus discount for those who can answer the following
> >> question:
> >>
> >> How long would one have to wait to determine whether the
> >> frictionless, rigid
> >> plane was level by watching the motion of a particle on it?
> >>
> >
From cbettis@unlserve.unl.edu Tue Sep 30 09:33:25 2003
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They were seen by the Schroedinger's cat who chased them away and is missing
as well.

Cliff
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Subject: Re: The Ideal Scientific Equipment Company Catalog


> Where are the Maxwell Demons. Zig
>
> Matt Lowry wrote:
>
> > Hilarious! I have to send this to my colleagues!
> >
> > Whahoo! - Matt Lowry
> >
> > >>> ebert@citrus.ucr.edu 9/29/2003 11:35:17 AM >>>
> > http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/ideal/ideal.htm
> >
> > Ron Ebert
> > UCR Physics Department
> > ron.ebert@ucr.edu
> > http://phyld.ucr.edu
>
> --
> Zigmund J. Peacock
> WWW.physics.utah.edu/people/staff/peacock.html
> University of Utah/Physics peacock@physics.utah.edu
> 115 SOUTH 1400 EAST #201 Tel 801 581 6602
> SALT LAKE CITY UT 84112-0830 Fax 801 581 4801
>
> "We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in
> the night to do violence to those who would do us harm"
> -- George Orwell
>
> "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good
> men do nothing!"
> -- Edmund Burke
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